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  1. junelawnchaired

    junelawnchaired neat-o!

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    when the community handles player reports >>>
     
  2. Kling

    Kling Break blocks not hearts Staff Member Super Mod

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    Christ that last reply is as petty as they come Marshal, accepted.
    See you soon @Perfectly xo
     
  3. Deinen

    Deinen S'all Good Man

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    Your claim that the money is still yours is not valid, proven false by all the legal precedents currently existing. It's clearly established once an item / money / possession is no longer on your possession or in your direct control, you lose ownership. This is why when someone drops an item on the ground, it's fair game. It's also why if someone accidently sends money to an unintended person, that recipient has no obligation to send the money back. Player agreements don't supercede server policy / precedent.

    Additionally, the use of banks in comparison is null and void, because defaulting on a bank loan does not cause the borrower to go to prison, or in this case a ban. Banks also do their due diligence before lending money, which you failed to do, because if you had it would have been readily apparent with Imperfectly's history that they would most likely default on that loan. You made a risky move and now are relying on server staff and an innocent person (NinjaRoxy) to pay in time and resource to fix the mistake that originated with you.

    It was I that formed the server's loan policy, and the reason why it was put into place was to deter people from making loans without doing any due diligence to people they should not loan money too, then demand the server to fix it. It's also clear from the onset you have been attempting to navigate around the policies currently in place, in order to do the very thing the server is trying to prevent.
     
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  4. Deinen

    Deinen S'all Good Man

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    Your legal claim is strenuous at best and at worse it's already causing the server to lose 1 player, and penalizing an innocent player of 150k. The second Imperfectly gave that money to Ninjaroxy, who did not enter in an agreement with you, it became her possession and nobody elses.

    Your claim it helps people buy ranks isn't valid because if they take out a loan with the expectation of a 7 day repayment, they could just save up for 7 days to purchase the rank without the interest included. The upside to this scheme is that you, singularly, profit. However the downside, as we're already seeing, is that it is actively causing the server to lose players.

    Loans should not be moderated, but the lender should do their due diligence before handing out loans and making sure they can absorb the loss should the loanee default on payment.

    @Deljikho would be a good example of a good lending service. If I recall correctly, he lent out to quite a few people. However he did his due diligence before each person, resulting in only 1 person defaulting on all the loans he gave.
     
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  5. Deinen

    Deinen S'all Good Man

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    You should honestly shut this service down or not ban for defaults. What this "loan service" does, ultimately, is cause people to get banned, which hurts the server.
     
  6. Deinen

    Deinen S'all Good Man

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    It doesn't matter what you write, lol

    I am a millionaire

    Nope, didn't work. Reality is, Ninja is not responsible for your loan, nor should she be penalized in anyway. The money wasn't yours the second you used /pay
     
  7. smkorpi

    smkorpi Popular Meeper Staff Member Helper

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    I don't understand how you get into situations that cause so many problems like this.

    Imperfectly owes you 150k, let him server his time under a ban and you get to swallow that 150k because you made a poor decision. It has been we'll known by the majority of active members that loaning is not supported by staff, as a player you should know this, and by previous comments, you were warned.

    You can not expect a dime from NinjaRoxy since she is not involved in this and the money she received was imperfectly' money. Believe it or not, you won't be getting 150k from roxy because imp gave her money, it just doesn't work like that.

    If you're going to file the report, atleast file it correctly and report imperfectly for scamming, to which giving a loan should imply. You should not have included any claim to money that NinjaRoxy has gotten from Imperfectly, choose the reasoning from my post or any other in this thread.

    Good luck
     
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  8. Deinen

    Deinen S'all Good Man

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    My implication is your agreement is with Imperfectly and nobody else, thus Ninjaroxy was not part of the agreement and has no business in this situation. Nobody is arguing that Imperfectly didn't scam you, but the standing policy is loans are not refunded, which is what this is. Nothing you write or have in agreement with any other player changes this situation. You have no grounds to demand money from Ninjaroxy, as she entered into no agreement with you.

    I was referring to Ninjaroxy, as his claim that she needs to give him 150,000 would essentially be penalizing an innocent player.
     
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  9. KlutchDecals

    KlutchDecals The Real Ironman Staff Member Administrator

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    You loaned money to Imper.

    Ninja is not responsible for your loans. You cant use prism to track down who the money was paid to and demand refunds from them.

    This is exactly why we dont deal with loans, and we dont refund them anyway.
     
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  10. Muunkee

    Muunkee Legendary art supply hoarder

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    Did she have knowledge of the loan prior to this? Did she agree to pay you this money? How is she responsible in any way shape or form? In reality, she shouldnt even be involved in the situation whatsoever - it was hers once it was given to her
     
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  11. Imperfectly

    Imperfectly Popular Meeper

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    Can some1 please strike june for posting unrelated content on this player report discussion?