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Meep Businesses

Discussion in 'Denied' started by diamondkid123456, Jan 18, 2018.

  1. diamondkid123456

    diamondkid123456 Popular Meeper

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    MEEPCRAFT BUSINESSES

    Suggestion:
    The Incorporation Of Corporations I'm Meepcraft

    Worlds affected:

    Towny
    - The towns world might need to undergo some level of change to accommodate with Meep Businesses, good change that is.
    Wild- For some Operations.
    Skyblock- Skyblock functionality to be decided.

    Idea: That we should introduce businesses to meepcraft. With additional functionality, owning your own company, or being part of one in meepcraft could be enjoyable and make paid jobs an ease.

    General Information: By introducing businesses to Towny, Wild and Skyblock worlds, we can introduce a new interactive activity to meep and reduce the common strain associated with jobs, shops and more. It will cost 40,000 meebles to start a business.

    A business can claim plots, have its own designated shop signs(detailed later) and can be connected to a town. Businesses will have a CEO/President(or 2), Managers, Employee's and contractors(for plot work, limited time slots). These staff members will be paid automatically per day from the Business' bank balance. Businesses can own towns too. Businesses would be far more superior to manually setting a job as payments can be easily managed and workers will be only allowed to work in a certain plot for a certain period of time, where they need to reach a quota to reach a payment). It will also benefit people who own a sign shop, where instead of all money going to one person, the signs will send money to the cooperation's bank.

    This proposed system is fairly complex, so please continue.

    Power Structure:

    CEO: The Owner of the business.
    The owner or co owner of the business who has full, overriding control of all operations. These people have direct access to the business's finances, staff info and can set payment. CEO's can access all Plot Area's. To access pay roles for employee's they do /b payroll list. This will show all registered employee's and their salaries. A ceo has the option to set payment intervals per individual or OPERATION. For example, a CEO can do /b pay set <player/operation> <amount> <weekly/daily/hourly>. More CEO commands can be found in the commands section. To add a president(a co-owner) do /b president add <IGN>.

    Managers: Managers are in charge of certain operations, such as operating shops, operating towns, hiring contractors and hiring/firing employee's. Managers will be assigned to a certain OPERATION. Managers cannot access finances directly but can send a /b pay req to the CEO and will be provided with an allowance, set by the CEO. To fire an employee they can do /b fire <employee> reason. To hire an employee they either can accept a request /b <employee> accept <OPERATION> or request an employee doing /b <employee> request <OPERATION>

    Employee's: Employee's can build for the business, manage shops, casino's, help with towns and more. There can be multiple classes of employee(like towns) where one can build, one can access chest shops and operate them. An employee can only operate within their designated area and will get paid either on a weekly, daily, active(when they do work) basis from their pay roll. Details of an Employee's privileges with shops, etc. are shown below. Classes of employee's include: <IN THE WORKS>

    Contractors: Contractors will only be allowed to work in one
    area. Before they are hired, a manager will do /b job <player> <payment> startContractors must stick to their allocated job and will often build. Once their job is complete, they will /b job finish. Once a manager receives a /b job finish they can /tpa to the plot where the contractor was working. When everything looks good they will do /b job <player> finish when the contractor will be payed. A contractor can work on behalf of another corporation.

    Business Types: <More to come>

    SMALL BUSINESS

    Apon approval, a small business will have 1 ceo(or 2 co-presidents if in a partnership) and workers that work on 1 operation in a single area. These workers will be able to access all assets of the business(physical assets, not the balance) since they all operate in the same area. Upon establishing a business, trust is required.

    A small business is determined by revenue. To proceed to the rank of a Medium Business and claim multiple areas, one must reach the max number of employee's and make a profit.

    OPERATIONS THAT CAN BE MANAGED: ONE
    AREA's AVALIABLE: ONE
    CAN HAVE MANAGERS: NO
    CAN HIRE CONTRACTORS: NO
    MAX NO. EMPLOYEE's: SIX

    MEDIUM BUSINESS

    A medium business, upon approval of this proposal will have 1 Ceo(or 2 if in a 50/50partnership) and workers who work on 1 operation with multiple area's.

    A medium business is determined by revenue, number of area's and the number of employee's. To proceed to the rank of a Large Business, the company must reach 10 employee's and make a <TBD> profit. Since a medium business has multiple area's, employee's can be segmented into different shops for example. This additional area functionality can increase productivity and reduce liability if pursued correctly.

    OPERATIONS THAT CAN BE MANAGED: ONE
    AREA's AVALIABLE: UP TO 5
    CAN HAVE MANAGERS: NO
    CAN HIRE CONTRACTORS: NO
    MAX NO. EMPLOYEE's: TEN

    LARGE BUSINESS

    Has 1+ Ceo's and can handle 2 operations. However, management of these operations must be done by the CEO's at this level. These operations have multiple areas. Large Businesses have the additional functionality of hiring contractors, that do work for a limited period of time.

    A large business is determined by revenue, the establishment of a 2nd operation and meeting a quota of employee's. When a business is a Large Business, it can hire a single contractor to do work or a single fellow business that specialises in building operations, a "contractor company".

    OPERATIONS THAT CAN BE MANAGED:
    ONE
    AREA's AVALIABLE: UP TO 5
    CAN HAVE MANAGERS: NO
    CAN HIRE CONTRACTORS: YES, ONE AT A TIME(Or one contractor company at a time)
    MAX NO. EMPLOYEE's: 20 + Contractors

    CORPORATION<UNDER DEVELOPMENT>
    Has 1 or more CEO's with multiple managers that handle several operations. A corporation will be able to enter the Meep Stock Market, where it can have multiple owners.

    NEED YOUR HELP!!!

    OPTIONS: 1. Corporations have NO limits and can run as many operations as they desire.
    2. Corporations have limits<list them below>
    3. There are multiple tiers of Corporations, like Small, Medium and Large Businesses.



    Area Information(TOWNY ONLY)

    An area is a plot or set of connected plots. An area defines the privileges and status of a plot/shop/embassy and which employee's can work there. Each area will have a code(For example, /pwarp stuff as an area could be called
    /b <operation> <areaname(stuff)>. The CEO can set an area to be apart of an OPERATION. For example, all shops would be under the same operation and under the same management, all casino's, hostels(future suggestion) etc. An entire town can be registered as a whole area

    An area will allow employee's/contractors to operate in the designated zone and not the entire business. This will prevent any unauthorised conduct by tampering with plots that their not supposed to(current problem with /res friend). To set an area do
    /b area <name> <operation> claim. To allocate employee's to an area do /b assign area <employee> while in it.

    Summary of Area's: Area's define where an employee can work. For instance, a business might own both a town, casino and multiple shops. If an employee is to work at a shop, area will allow them to work on that shop zone but not interfere with any other businesses, casino's, shops or towns. Area's are similar to
    OPERATIONS in a way, but OPERATIONS limit manager privileges.

    Operation Information

    Operations control a certain aspect of the Business. A manager will be assigned to each operation to make sure it's successful and to manage employee status and potentially individual payrolls. Each
    area will be assigned to an operation, if the operation can have an area.

    Operations Include:

    •Shop
    A shop operation can be created by doing /b shop <operationname> create. A shop operation controls all the shop aspects of a business. More information on the operation of a Business Shop is detailed below in the SHOP sub section ;).

    •Town
    A town operation can be created by doing /town claim operation. Town operations can only work on 1 town and it's territories. Town operations manage a town, residents etc. A town operation replaces the mayor with the Administrator and Co-Mayor with a councillor(a special rank of employee that can do more). Employee's at this level assume the former ranks of the claimed town<MORE TO COME>

    •Gatherer
    A gatherer operation gathers materials from the WILD or TRADE and leaves them at a designated collection
    area. Gatherer's in the operation only have 1 area, their drop off for items. They work in the wild usually.

    •Builder
    A builder operation consists of builders that work for other companies or towns as contractors. They get paid per job.<MORE TO COME>

    •Casino
    A casino operation will manage one casino for Small-> Medium Businesses, two casino's for Large Businesses and <tbd> for corporations. Staff operating casino operations will not be allowed to use slots. This is to prevent spam selling or money laundering.

    •SkyCity
    Skyblock Operation, <Please Leave Suggestions, I literally cannot access skyblock>

    •Legal
    A legal operation will handle lawsuits.<Information on lawsuits will be detailed below>


    Plots


    Corporations will claim plots from towns or will automatically assume plots upon the accusation or the foundation of a town. Plots owned by a business will fall under a seperate plot class called <business>. Upon the acceptance of this proposal, towns will be able to charge special % rates for the profit earned by the AREA of an operation.

    Plots owned by Businesses can have a level of protection or independence from the town they are situated in. This level of "independence" is vital and necessary to stamp out any instances of<I/C>

    Shops

    Chest Operation
    Shop Chests under a business will use the business name instead of a player IGN in the <IGN> field of the shop signs. All employee's(shop operation) assigned to the area where business sign chest shops are will be able to insert and take out items.<I/C>

    Shop chests in an area owned by a business will have the functionality to automatically revert to business ownership if an employee deliberately inserts their name

    Financial Management

    Each shop operation will have its own seperate financial management system. This will provide a manager with access to recent sales, the popularity of items etc. <I/c>

    Person-Person Trade

    Person - Person trade will take place within a seperate command<I/C>


    Permissions:

    Finances

    All money earned by a business will be "pooled" into the Business Bank. The Business Bank will hold all of the business' meebles and will distribute payments to employee's and collect earnings automatically.

    Stock Market: <I/C>


    Corporations will be able to enter the stock market. They will be able to either float; 10 shares;50 shares or 100 shares. Each share will represent a percent of the company's profit. Whenever a company makes 100meebles profit

    LAW: <I/C>


    Companies will be able to SUE each other. A lawcase can occur when



    BENIFITS:


    Comparisons

    •Shops
    Before businesses, sign shops could only buy/sell on behalf of 1 player. When 2 or more people collaborate on a shop as the system stands now, they must trust each other to distribute the earnings from 1 chest shop or set up several different chest shops. This can prove problematic due to trust and accessibility concerns since shop chests are locked




    LIST OF COMMANDS

    This part is still under development. Everything below is untidy on purpose as I need to arrange, add, remove stuff.

    Root Business Commands:

    /business new <name>
    CREATES A NEW BUSINESS



    Player Rank and Privilege Commands

    /b <rank> add <playername>
    Sets the rank for a player
    /b <rank> remove <playername>
    /b assign <area> <employee>

    /b <employee> request <OPERATION>


    Operation Commands



    Area Commands



    Shop Commands



    Special Business Plot Commands

    /B plot perms set <business, town, nation> Specifies whether only Business staff, B and Town or B, T and Nation staff can touch the plot.
    /B plot transfer


    Town Commands
    /town claim operation






    Note: I understand this is a fairly simple idea and hard to implement, I would be open to new suggestions. I just did this for fun so pls do not attack me for my suggestion(something that won't happen, cuz it's meep xD). Making this killed me, so pls don't double kill me XD

    STILL WORKING ON DRAFTS AND EVERYTHING, THIS IS DRAFT 1. THERE's A LONG WAY TO GO. ANY IDEA's LEAVE THEM BELOW!!

    THIS IS INCOMPLETE. LEAVE SUGGESTIONS BELOW.

    SORRY FOR ALL THE <INCOMPLETE> IM WORKING ON THIS AS FAST AS I CAN. THANKYOU

    MOST THINGS ARE INCOMPLETE, JUST LEAVE FEEDBACK BASED ON YOUR GENERAL FEEL

    THANKYOU
     
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  2. OKNEM

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    Absolutely love the amount of effort put into this, it's definitely showing that this is something you're passionate about and want to implement. I like the general idea and the categories that are defined within, however I don't think this is a thing that Meep can abstain with a low player count at the moment. With 100+ players on at peak? Possibly could be considered, but right now, it's too much for our size server.
     
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  3. diamondkid123456

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    I totally understand, meep's got way more priorities at the moment, with the highest regards to player count! I'll resume work on this project as a hobby for the time being. I understand the server has many priorities at the moment and I'm happy to leave the Meep Business idea on the table for when we reach a that golden mark and hopefully sustain it. Well, it's up to the admins... But thankyou OKNEM, I appreciate it!!!!!



     
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  4. riri30

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    Though your effort is greatly appreciated, I think this would be a huge project to include, but it’s mostly extremely complicated. Explaining this to a new player would be a mess.
     
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  5. Enderzon

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    I'd +1 it but I wouldn't put it on priority, there is a playercount of 30-60 players, there are also many other things devs have to worry about
     
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  6. FamousZAmos

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    Can we do this after we bring back KitPvP, Dungeons, raise playercount, fix the anticheat, bring back CTF, re-install Airship, fix economy-breaking exploits, find out how Achrow is backdooring in items, fix ip-banning, fix parkour, and add /nctoggle?
     
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    bit cheap. a town cost 150k keep this in mind if this does go into play.
     
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  8. HatKid

    HatKid Aiden snaked Billy

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    I do think that this would be a good idea. On past servers, I have used business plugins to add to the economy aspect and it has worked with some success. But as others have said, it needs a large player base of probably well over 100. At the current stage, Meepcraft does not have this. Maybe if the server grows again, I would definitely give a +1 but it just wouldn't work as planned at the moment. Great idea though
     
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    +1

    Positives
    • Amazing amount of effort, very impressed.
    • Interesting concept, I would love to see how it plays out in the MeepCraft economy.
    • Would invoke a new aspect of economy that (I feel) would add a lot more to the MeepCraft experience.
    Negatives
    • As it stands, MeepCraft does not have a sufficient playerbase to justify this kind of system (as others have mentioned).
    • There are many other projects that (I feel) should take higher priority, so if this project goes through, it should definitely be at the bottom of the pile.
    • I am inclined to believe that this kind of dramatic change might affect the way that a lot of Meepers run their shops, grinders, etc. To some, this might appear to be a negative change due to the increased structure and lack of lenience regarding how they might run these institutions.
    Improvements/Changes
    • 40,000 Meebles is quite low (in my opinion). I think it should be raised to at least 80,000. With the current state of inflation within the MeepCraft economy, 40,000 Meebles can be made in a few hours, and the entire business scene would be overrun with countless small businesses set up by players with little to no experience in the economy.
    • I think that businesses should pay a variable tax rate (depending on the tier of business. e.g. small pays 500 Meebles tax, medium pays 1000 Meebles tax, etc). This tax rate would also be affected by the area of land in their possession, as declared by the institution responsible for real-estate (e.g. town land taxes).
    • There should be absolute (static) data regarding how businesses can conduct their operations in a way that is not detrimental to the economy or market competition.
     
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  10. diamondkid123456

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    Excellent tax rate idea, was thinking about that before. But who should receive the tax money? Btw maybe additional payments like another 50k to get a medium sized business, 60k for large etc?
     
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    I want this

    I WANT THIS
     
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    I think we would have to work out a better idea for this.... it would almost definitely cause problems.

    ^

    This

    The idea is great but we need more players first. Thanks for putting time into this. I do have one question though, couldn't someone just get paid for doing nothing?
     
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    I think that the size of the business should be determined by the business meeting certain criteria, for example, if the business was to successfully accomplish 50 missions, it could meet a criteria. If it had gained 100,000 Meebles in profits, it would meet a criteria. A business that meets all of a set of criterion would proceed to advance to the higher tier. These criterion would become increasingly difficult to obtain as the tier increases.
     
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    Yeah, I already thought of the criteria idea as it is already mentioned in the report. Not sure about "missions" though, criteria sits at employee numbers and the financial situation of the business. Thanks for the comment anyway!!! Still trying to decide the profit required to meet the criteria, not sure if 100k is too much/little for a small->medium or medium->large.

    Maybe businesses can pay to have their status upgraded? still trying to formulate that aspect
    --- Double Post Merged, Jan 19, 2018, Original Post Date: Jan 19, 2018 ---
    They only get paid for the day's they are online and if they do not do any work they get kicked. They might need to meet a certain quota for the day, still formulating this :)
     
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    +1 dmcc banking will come back
     
  16. alex77034

    alex77034 Hey baby, I hear the blues a-callin'

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    I feel like this idea is too good to deny, but the amount of work that would need to be done is plentiful. Like @FamousZAmos mentioned, there are other things that should be done first in my opinion.

    I think this suggestion should be put on pending until it can be revisited again, because it’s too damn good to just throw it out into the trash. There are some things I would change, but you’re ideas are ambitious.
     
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    I suggested this a year ago for a command of /c and it was denied for not having a purpose other than drying up the economy
     
  18. twomoo1119

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    Would they be limited liability companies though?
     
  19. diamondkid123456

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    I get what you mean, probably not. If the company crumbles I guess the shareholders should too to prevent abuse/scamming. So yes, I believe the owners should be affected by financial problems in the company. This can change tho, if u deem this to be too far.
     
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    Idk, LLCs brought a whole new thing to the world, if something went wrong with your company (e.g. failing to pay a loan) its not like you were killed or sent to prison.
     

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