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STATE OF SYRIA

Discussion in 'Debates' started by Kling, Apr 14, 2018.

  1. Kling

    Kling Break blocks not hearts Staff Member Super Mod

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    I'd like to know your opinion on the Syrian war and recent news of situations or events. I hope to see there will be mixed views that collide. A few specifics could be:
    • Each oppositions War crimes, are they justified
    • Are Western countries truly helping or making matters worse
    • News of Syria, opinion on recent happenings
    • Your view on the likely outcome of Post Assad
     
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  2. Deinen

    Deinen S'all Good Man

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    War Crimes are generally never justified.

    If you are referring to America's presence there - Neither, we're not there to help but to disrupt Russian influence as much as we can, while fermenting chaos both Assad / Russia has to deal with. This part is working

    We cannot let outright chemical attacks on a population to go without some response. The response was adequate in my opinion, we're limited to what we can do.

    There will be no post Assad. As long as Russia there Assad will remain in power. Russia has been there since the 70s and have been allies with the Assad family in general. In some event Assad is killed or deposed, Russia will prop up another person in order to ensure stability of their bases and port.
     
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  3. twomoo1119

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    Idk...

    But that missile strike is 30 cents out of your taxes
     
  4. CompletePotato

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    my only response- bad.

    but guys, you gotta think-

    there is no legitimate proof that the russians and syrians did a single chemical attack,

    if so find me proof.
     
  5. CompletePotato

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    think

    ok so maybe russia did a chemical attack, but there still is room for the thing everyone is asking for-

    proof

    secondly-

    really.

    do you think it's a good idea to send missiles to a place killing more civilians than a chemical attack.

    100 missiles.

    1 chem attack if there was one.

    choose which one you want your people to be subjected to.

    i would rather choose chem attack because what if you see 100 missiles raining from the sky- wow that's a lot of fun boom 2,000 people dead wow so cool lets do it again.

    no

    and really do you want war with russia

    think about the term- "mutuallly assured distruction"

    for all you idiots who think we can win a war with russia, you're dumb.

    nuclear missile= 50,000 people dead

    200 nuclear missile= no more united states

    us+russia= rip world
     
  6. Deinen

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    So, this post is pretty inaccurate. If I had to make an assumption, I would assume you don't know what you are talking about.

    1) You won't see the proof because you don't have clearance for classified information and are not involved in the agencies looking at this to determine the guilty party. Experts at the state department, UN and various other governments are pretty confident that they have the right party. What qualification do you have which would allow you to question their expertise?

    2) We had to respond on some level and missiles were the best choice we had which would not lead to escalation. We know this absolutely because Russia did not interfere with the missile strikes what-so-ever. Failure to respond to outright chemical attacks only give other tinpot dictators an excuse to do so.

    3) Additionally, I do not believe there were any civilian casualties with this strike.

    4) Nobody is making the case to declare war on Russia. If they do, they are as dumb as this post.
     
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  7. MeepLord27

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    nobody thinks russia did a chemical attack. Have you read a single article other than Mike Cernovich to arrive at your conclusion?
     
  8. Deinen

    Deinen S'all Good Man

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    Of course not. Why should you wait to know what you are talking about before opening your mouth and betraying your ignorance on a topic?
     
  9. Deinen

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    You are literally buying into Russian propaganda hook, line and sinker.

    Evidence shows Syria 'attacked own people with chemical weapons', say US, UK and France

    French report lays out the evidence: Assad forces conducted chemical attack on civilians

    US says it has proof Assad's regime carried out Douma gas attack

    Syria chemical attack: State department confirmed Syrian government behind gas attack today - CBS News

    France has proof Syrian government conducted chemical weapons...
     
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  10. Bloopers

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    umm... i'm pretty sure there is like a lot of proof. i saw on the news yesterday videos of the syrians running through the city and trying to figure out where to go through all of this white cloud gas stuff. you cant see very far through it and apparently it smells like chlorine. then there are videos of them washing themselves off with a hose after they've run out of it, but chances are it's too late because they've breathed it in.

    what about the spy poisoning? the UK has plenty of evidence to show that its the russians doing. for one, its a russian chemical that they identified.

    i'm not going to go and find the videos because its sorta silly that i would have to, because its for sure that they've happened and they're using it on their own people.
     
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  12. GroovyGrevous

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    the whole thing with Syria is the both the Russians and Americans want the gas
     
  13. Deinen

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    Incorrect.

    Russia/America/Saudi Arabia are the top 3 oil producing nations in the world. Russia provides Europe with about 1/3 of it's gas (natural) and oil.
     
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    Warning (language)
    AJ with some hard hitting foreign policy analysis .
     
  15. CompletePotato

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    lol everyone is so triggered and there are so many comments i cant even read them all
     
  16. Kachess

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    There's like three comments, how hard is it?
     
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  17. Bloopers

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    lol u trigrd mate

    dont be ignorant, there are many many sources with proof. even videos from the syrian citizens themselves. this is like denying that 9/11 happened or something. the US didn't just attack syria just cuz lol memes oil there invade invade conquer. no. the attack was EXTREMELY planned out just like all of the other attacks any nation would do like this. the targets were specific places like chemical weapons manufacturing facilities etc. it wasn't attacking civilians, they actually did this to protect the syrian civilians from their own darn diddly damned government
     
  18. MeepLord27

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    The US doesn’t care about the suffering of civilians. Syria bombs civilians all type time, the US just got triggered cause they used chemical weapons.
     
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    i think this debate cant be taken seriously anymore

    of course the US cares about the civilians... that's the ENTIRE POINT OF WANTING THEM TO STOP THE CHEMICAL WEAPONS. they're mad that the chemical weapons were used, yes, but they're even more angry that they were used on innocent people!
     
  20. MeepLord27

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    lol the US bombs way more civilians than syria could hope to kill with gas. Their chemicals weapons killed around 40 people, in a single month the US-led coalition killed around 225 civilians. The US is just using civilian deaths as a way to stir up public support for another imperialist war that makes defense contractors rich.
     

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