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White privilege?

Discussion in 'Debates' started by MeepLord27, May 5, 2017.

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  1. MeepLord27

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    Please prove this.

    Please prove this.
     
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    Kling Break blocks not hearts Staff Member Super Mod

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    Thank you, but you literally answered my comment with ''okay'' before and rambled on about feminists for the first half of it hence why I was confused, no need to be obnoxious.
     
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    Black Lives Matter Activist Unveils List of Demands to White People: 'Give Up the Home You Own'


    idk why its so big but here is what they posted.
    The Democrats‏Verified account @TheDemocrats Jan 7
    Let's elect: [​IMG]Black women [​IMG]LGBT women [​IMG]Muslim women [​IMG]Disabled women [​IMG]Jewish women [​IMG]Latina women [​IMG]Millennial women [​IMG]Jewish women [​IMG]AAPI women [​IMG]More. Women.
     
  4. Deinen

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    Anecdotes are anecdotes. Thus far myself and Meeplord have provided actual figures to support our argument. You have been unable to do so.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jan 11, 2018, Original Post Date: Jan 11, 2018 ---
    Nowhere does it say we shouldn't elect white or christian women.
     
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    Analysis | Aren’t more white people than black people killed by police? Yes, but no.

    MSM always has fake news or biased news for liberals but not for conservatives. Just like the title in this source
    "Aren’t more white people than black people killed by police? Yes, but no." Cops killed nearly double white people than blacks but they word it to make it look like they are the ones with more being killed.


    It says lets elect "____ women" with nearly everything listed but Whites and Christians. It doesnt say "lets hire everyone but whites and christians" but it doesnt list them as "lets hire them". So it indeed does say hire everything but whites and christians.
     
  6. Deinen

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    You are further proving my point. Of course numerically more white people are killed because there is that many more white people in this country.

    In 2016 black men made up 6% of our population
    In 2016 40% of police killings involved black men.
    Since Jan 2015 - to when the article was published: 175 black men were killed, 24 unarmed. 172 white people were killed, 18 of them unarmed.

    If black men make up only 6% of our population then why statistically are the numbers so similar, near the exact same?

    That is statistically a huge issue, thank you for helping me further prove my issue.

    Perhaps that's what the "More" box was referring too. Are you seriously taking issue with a push to further gain representation of groups of people statistically under represented?

    Again, thus far we are able to include figures to support our arguments and you are unable to post any factual real evidence to support yours, which seems to be a running theme for you.
     
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    Well I didn’t prove your point. You just like to skip over some of the facts that are quoted. Which is what you like to do. (Keep your snarky little remarks to the side, that’s why I quit the Trump debate because you only say that your sources are credible, and anything I post is not.)


    ***“But it is true that a disproportionate amount of murders and other violent crimes are committed by black Americans.

    Because detailed FBI data on crime can lag by several years, the most-cited statistics on this point refer to 2009 data. According to that data, out of all violent crimes in which someone was charged, black Americans were charged with 62 percent of robberies, 57 percent of murders and 45 percent of assaults in the country’s 75 biggest counties — despite the fact that black Americans made up just 15 percent of the population in those places.”***

    This comes straight from that source. We’re not looking at overall population percentages. We’re looking at just the criminals. Which most stats use over all population. Well yes, when you look at over all population it does indeed show more black folks are shot by percent. When you compare just black and white criminals, more whites are shot. So actually, Deinen, the number of whites being shot is much higher than blacks. Let alone the fact that there are more white people in America than black & blacks comit WAYYYYY more crimes than whites.
     
  8. MeepLord27

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    please provide polling data or some other form of proof that shows Black Lives Matter as a movement is about exterminating the white race.

    Black people are 13% of the population you nimrod, obviously numerically white people get shot more, anyone seriously looking at the issue would look at percentages.

    This is true, but this does not eliminate the factors of discrimination. We can prove racism is a factor - we want to eliminate that factor.
    Couldn't white christians fall into the "more women" category?
     
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    white privilege does not exist, sorry to say it.

    you have children, stop worrying about this terrible debate among children on a minecraft forum. thanks!
     
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    @MeepLord27 - you can call me a “nimrod” over and over and over again. It doesn’t make your argument valid. You’re clearly misunderstanding what I am saying.

    When calculating who gets shot more, whites or blacks. The number for whites being shot is nearly triple that of blacks.

    We are not counting the overall population. As the overall population are not the ones being shot. We are ONLY counting the number of blacks/whites who ARE criminals and HAVE been shot. Why would we count the overall population? And for the black crime rate to be as high as it is, when their population is somewhere around 13% of the overall population, isn’t that a bad thing towards them? Why are blacks committing so much crime if they’re such a minority?

    I think I need to say this everytime I post something; “it’s not white privilege, it’s American privilege”. America is the land of opportunity, we’re all capable of opportunity. It’s how bad you want it & how hard you’re willing to work for it.
     
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    I am pretty certain this is the only time I have called you nimrod, and names in general. I usually try to shy away from insults.
     
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    @Deinen - so I was listening to the great Mark Simone this morning ft: The even greater Ann Coulter and they were talking about Emperor God Trump (as Ann refers to him), and Mark made mention of Trump being sued for his "rental discrimination". Apparently MANY landlords were sued in the 70's for "rental discrimination", not just Trump (as you like to put it), and it wasn't that he (they) was racially discriminating against anyone, many residents simply weren't paying rent, were on welfare, and basically calling squatters rights (from what I understand). They let them off because they didn't find anything that had to do with racial discrimination.

    Right from your source:

    Donald Trump’s ascent in his family’s business, after his 1968 graduation from business school, came as allegations of race discrimination were mounting against landlords across New York City. Housing bias had become a major policy issue in Congress.

    What we didn’t do was rent to welfare cases, white or black,” Trump wrote in his 1987 autobiography. “I’d rather fight than fold, because as soon as you fold once, you get the reputation of being a folder.”

    It wasn't rental discrimination based on race, it was discrimination based on are you going to be a good tenant? Are you going to pay the rent on time? are you going to be able to afford the apartment? are you on welfare? etc etc etc, things every landlord does and should look at (especially in nice areas/buildings, like the Trumps properties.
     
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    Thus far your reasoning is:

    1. Everyone did it
    2. The guy who is known to lie prolifically says it wasn't race based. The same guy who is now denying low skilled labor from Haiti, and not low skilled labor from any other nation.

    What makes low skilled labor from Haiti and less than low skilled labor from Europe?
     
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    1) I'm reasonably sure the Haitians are here mostly as refugees so we wouldn't really make decisions about them in terms of economics.
    2) I'm not sure there is very much low skilled labor coming in comparable quantities from European countries because most of Europe is de facto first world.
     
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    @Deinen thats not at all what I said.

    You pointed out Trump, saying he racially discriminated against blacks in the mid-late 1900’s. However, you failed to realize that most of the NY landlords were being sued for ‘racially discrimiting against black people within their rental properties’.

    I’m saying...
    A) Donald Trump wasn’t the only one being sued for it. Half of NY was.
    B) The charges WERE dropped because
    •They found 0 evidence that ANY of them especially Trump were racially profiling within their rental properties.
    • They found out he WAS denying welfare users, which might I add - were black & white.
    • there were black people living in every single rental apartment building Trump had. Even if the majority was white. He did have blacks in all his complexes.

    He isn’t known to lie ‘prolifically’. The media does like to change what he says.

    Did you see the FANTASTIC ‘FAKE NEWS MEDIA AWARDS’!!!! :)

    Haiti - is a crap hole. Deny it & you’ll look like the biggest idiot. Maybe if the Clinton foundation gave Haiti the money they rightfully owe them, instead of paying for their daughters wedding, Haiti might be a little better off then they are right now. Anyway, he stopped giving low skilled workers visas because of “high levels of fraud & abuse of their visas & they always overstay their allowed time”.
     
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    Would you like to go through and find times when he said things that were demonstrably not true?
     

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